Aug. 13, 2026

The Missing Link in Workplace Change: Why Managers Make or Break Inclusion with Julie Gawle

The Missing Link in Workplace Change: Why Managers Make or Break Inclusion with Julie Gawle

Organizations invest significant time, money, and resources into new technologies, processes, and inclusion initiatives, but successful implementation doesn't guarantee successful adoption.

In this episode of Changing Minds & Changing Lives, host Julie Sowash sits down with Julie Gawle, Senior Change Advisor at Meaningful Change Consulting, to explore the critical difference between project management and change management. Together, they discuss why so many well-intentioned workplace initiatives struggle to gain traction, the pivotal role managers play in driving adoption, and how organizations can create lasting change by focusing on people, not just processes.

The conversation covers manager enablement, stakeholder engagement, emotional intelligence, diverse hiring initiatives, and practical strategies leaders can use to build support, trust, and long-term success across their organizations.

In this Episode:

  • The difference between project management and change management
  • Why successful implementation does not guarantee successful outcomes
  • Common warning signs that workplace initiatives are failing to gain adoption
  • How inclusion and disability employment programs benefit from strong change strategies
  • The critical role managers play as gatekeepers of organizational change
  • Why emotional intelligence and empathy are essential leadership skills
  • How organizations can measure adoption beyond traditional metrics
  • The importance of leadership alignment and prioritization in times of constant change
  • Practical ways to better prepare and support managers during transformation efforts

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